Excerpts from the Joe Rogan Experience with Graham Hancock. JRE Podcast #417
GH: And I can’t help feeling that this thing happened so suddenly and in such an extraordinary way, that maybe this is the missing link, that we are looking at the fingerprints of a lost civilization, the survivors of a lost civilization who settled there with all these skills already in place and introduced them into the local culture. Because this period twelve thousand years ago plus, is the period when the earth went through gigantic cataclysmic events because the earth was struck by a comet.
JR: Yeah, Thats’ the other piece of the puzzle, the nuclear glass that they found, how do you say it, trinitite and that they have found this stuff all over Europe
GH: All over the World.
JR: All over the World. All across Asia. At that precise moment, 12,000 years ago.
GH: And a layer of platinum in the Greenland ice cores all of this says that Earth was hit by a comet at that time.
JR: Is that the Holocene?
GH: Well, that’s the beginning, it’s the beginning of our period, the Holocene is our period, it’s the period we still live in now, in archaeological terms it’s the juncture between the upper paleolithic and the neolithic. That’s what we are talking about here and you have this episode that geologists call the Younger Dryas, which is an episode of a sudden deep freeze strikes the Earth, the earth has been emerging from the ice age until 12,980 years ago and amazingly you can date it that precisely, give or take 5 years this happened 12,980 years ago, and then suddenly the Earth flips into this thousand year deep freeze. That nobodies ever been able to explain before, that they called the Younger Dryas and we now we can say for sure that the Younger Dryas was caused by huge amounts of dust being projected into the upper atmosphere of the Earth by this comet impact. And that that dust enshrouded the whole earth and set into motion what we would call a nuclear winter today, where the Sun’s rays could no longer reach the earth and the earth went back into deep freeze and to me this is the smoking gun that lost us a whole civilization.
And I was just, yesterday I’ve come here from North Carolina and I sat down with Randall Carlson. Who has…
JR: Yes, I met him
Yes, that is exactly what he is talking about. He’s one of these guys who is just so far ahead of his time that nobody saw it, nobody realized what he was onto. Now everybody understands that the Earth was hit by a comet.
GH: You met Randall.
GH: He is a very, very, fascinating man, he’s been working away quietly on this subject for years and years and years, long before the evidence was in for a comet, he was predicting that this is what caused it , that there was a comet impact, he’s got this very very fascinating theory and he is going to take me next year on a field trip into the pacific northwest and into Canada. To look at areas where there were these massive outflows of floods from the ice cap and what Randall is suggesting is that at least some large fragments of the comet that hit the earth 12,900 years ago actually hit the ice cap, they landed on the ice cap that was still then a mile deep and they pulverized it, they turned it into water immediately, and that is why you have these giant outburst floods which carried down huge boulders and strewed them down all across the landscape. It’s a very exciting theory and it’s great to see Randall’s work vindicated because he’s been ignored far to long. I’m looking forward to doing a fascinating field trip with him next year.
The evidence all over the world is clear, that this happened, but Randall was onto this years before anybody else, and what he is also doing is just taking it that bit further, because we have these mysterious floods that occurred in precisely that period that have been traditionally called outburst floods.
GH: Yes, that is exactly what he is talking about. He’s one of these guys who is just so far ahead of his time that nobody saw it, nobody realized what he was onto. Now everybody understands that the Earth was hit by a comet. There’s been a big scientific argument about this over the last five or six years but it is really settled now. The evidence all over the world is clear, that this happened, but Randall was onto this years before anybody else, and what he is also doing is just taking it that bit further, because we have these mysterious floods that occurred in precisely that period that have been traditionally called outburst floods. The idea was that ice caps gradually melting down filled up these huge glacial lakes, and that eventually the ice dam enclosing the glacial lake would break. But now it looks like we are looking at ice dams 1000 feet high in order to account for the massive flow of water. And what Randall is suggesting is that that theory is actually wrong, it wasn’t the outburst floods from glacial lakes, it was the comet hitting the ice cap that turned all that ice into water and produced a gigantic outflows, carrying down boulders, you know the size of houses and dumping them over the landscapes.
GH: And then you have to consider anything that laid in the way of those floods, anything that lay in the path of floods on that scale is gone, gone completely, wiped out from human memory.
And then you have to consider anything that laid in the way of those floods, anything that lay in the path of floods on that scale is gone, gone completely, wiped out from human memory.
JR: And you also have to consider the fact that we absolutely know that these events have taken place on a much greater scale over the course of the earth. There’s been mass extinction events, this is not preposterous. This is logical.
GH: It’s not preposterous! It is completely logical, and it’s time that historians and archaeologists abandoned the model, that everything things just proceeds smoothly and gently in the way that we’ve seen it doing in the last hundred years which is called uniformitarianism and embrace the thought that cataclysmic events are a key part of the history of the earth. We should know this already, there’s massive amount of evidence for it, it’s not something we even need to argue about but history proceeds on the basis that there is no such thing as a cataclysm, in fact it cataclysms that have written the story of human history.
JR: Not only that, but when you stop and look at all the ancient stories, the epic of Gilgamesh, the bible, the flood of the ark and…
JR: There are so many stories that involve cataclysmic events.
GH: They are all about floods and cataclysms.
JR: The idea that those are just fiction is kinda silly.
GH: It’s totally, totally crazy, and they all say that this is, that there was a golden age, that there was a former civilization that mankind had attained to a very high level, and then we angered the gods, it’s often put that way, we angered the gods, we fell out of harmony with the universe, something went wrong there was some type of moral decline.
JR: Like now!
GH: Like now! Like now, this is what I often say, if I were to look at our civilization in mythical terms, there is never been a civilization that looked more like the next lost civilization than ours. I don’t want to spread gloom and doom, I don’t believe in spreading gloom and doom I think we should think positive, I said this earlier and I do maintain this, I’m very optimistic about the future of the human race, but let’s not pretend it’s all roses in the garden. Terrible things are happening in the world today, we have unbelievable arrogance, unbelievable pride, cruelty, an economic model that makes countless millions incredibly poor and allows tiny tiny numbers to be incredibly, obscenely rich. The whole system is skewed in the interest of that tiny tiny fraction, of one percent of the wealthy. And unfortunately it’s bad as it’s possible to get in America. It’s bad in many other countries too but it is really bad in America, the skewing of wealth and the brainwashing of the population to keep people quiet to stop people thinking, the mind control that operates in our society. It’s like a pressure cooker, somethings got to give and our is a culture that is literally destroying the earth. The amazon jungle, this amazing sacred realm, this incredible home of biodiversity, this beautiful beautiful place, the destruction that is taking place now only a society that is truly insane could allow that to happen and that is unfortunately our society today so we need to wake up.
If I were to look at our civilization in mythical terms, there is never been a civilization that looked more like the next lost civilization than ours.
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